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wow, we're so misanthropic that we don't even talk to each other. I went to the vhmt website and i'ts quite a peaceful loving don't breed philosophy. My parent-friends will hate me for joining this tribe.
but I have no problem with kids or babies, it's the breeding. the perpetuation of your own genes because you think your genes are so damn special and important that you need to perpetuate them despite all the proof of over-population. My branch of my family is actually ending with my generation because my father was an only child and none of my siblings have had or will have kids (future, as far as I can tell) I think adoption is great, there are plenty of unwanted kids and unwanted pregnancies on this once lovely planet.
I just joined the oopsiforgottohavechildren tribe and I didn't realize it was so mean? I'm still not sure yet. their description says they're light-hearted. I've actually seen one woman who's body actually looked better due to pregnancy and nursing, and she didn't really want kids either, she did it for her husband, and now she's content with it, but it wasn't on her list of things she wanted to do in her life.
someone called me selfish once for not wanting kids, and I told her off because I often think people who chose to have children are the selfish narcissistic ones. anyway , long live VHMT, oh, wait, May the organization be successful sooner rather than later.....
peace
but I have no problem with kids or babies, it's the breeding. the perpetuation of your own genes because you think your genes are so damn special and important that you need to perpetuate them despite all the proof of over-population. My branch of my family is actually ending with my generation because my father was an only child and none of my siblings have had or will have kids (future, as far as I can tell) I think adoption is great, there are plenty of unwanted kids and unwanted pregnancies on this once lovely planet.
I just joined the oopsiforgottohavechildren tribe and I didn't realize it was so mean? I'm still not sure yet. their description says they're light-hearted. I've actually seen one woman who's body actually looked better due to pregnancy and nursing, and she didn't really want kids either, she did it for her husband, and now she's content with it, but it wasn't on her list of things she wanted to do in her life.
someone called me selfish once for not wanting kids, and I told her off because I often think people who chose to have children are the selfish narcissistic ones. anyway , long live VHMT, oh, wait, May the organization be successful sooner rather than later.....
peace
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Re: anyone here?....
Mon, January 10, 2005 - 12:55 PM
selfish? We are driving just about every living thing on earth to extinction and they call us selfish for not partaking in the biocide.
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Sun, March 27, 2005 - 2:09 AMha, someone actually replied. well said m.
I would have written sooner but I left the country and , well, forgot.
now I'm back,
long live and not reproduce.
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Re: anyone here?....
Mon, March 28, 2005 - 11:54 PMThis tribe has the best philosophy ever. My friend just had a baby and I'm supposed to be happy for her, but really I'm just happy that it's not me who had the kid... -
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Tue, March 29, 2005 - 11:49 AMBabies are one of the worst STD's
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Wed, March 30, 2005 - 10:22 PMMy extended family is full of religious fanatics who are REALLY into breeding. I think I may have offended some of them when I oh-so-diplomatically mentioned how unborn babies have a parasitic relationship with their mothers. -
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Thu, March 31, 2005 - 11:33 AMIt is difficult not to offend religious fanatics on any subject. That is half the fun.
Speaking of parasitic infections, is it just me or when you see mothers or fathers walking around with the baby satchel strapped on their chests does it remind you of an Aliens chestburster? or conjoined twins?
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Re: anyone here?....
Sat, April 2, 2005 - 12:01 AMA few years ago, a friend and I decided to backpack around South America for a month. Because we were encountering an extreme range of weather conditions and didn't like to be very dirty, we ended up each carrying a large backpack on our backs and a smaller one on our chests. I had trouble fitting through doorways, as I recall; when I'd turn around, I'd hit random objects...And that was on and off for only a month! -
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Sun, October 8, 2006 - 12:34 PMi don't think the 'oops i forgot to have kids' and 'childfree' tribes are mean at all; considering we're an epic minority at this point, it feels constructive to create places to download exposure to breeder ignorance that surrounds us - and to devise ways of humorously fending it off. i strive to avoid it, but sometimes i feel like i'm in a breeder pressure cooker while i just want people to wake the fuck up. in fact, i've been over.exposed this week & was looking for some action here to counter-balance, but since there's not much action am heading over to the others for some fun.
i love the "vehement" site. it's rock solid. grattitude for the diligence of its hosts/esses! -
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Mon, October 9, 2006 - 12:33 PMi agree... i actually really enjoy having an outlet in which to just go off on how truly revolting and unconscionable breeding is... we are so forcefully conditioned to view breeders and their little fucktrophies as these adorable, wonderful little things... and they are most assuredly NOT... it's time they took some heat for their selfish, narcissistic choices... the world doesn't need to revolve around them and their ease of life... let *them* have to decide whether or not public space is appropriate for their little twatfruit - can the twatfruit remain quiet and unobtrusive during an entire outing? no? then stay home with your little bundle of genetic crap and soak up all that wonderful loving energy you get from your junior parasite (that you want to bore us with stories of forever and ever) and leave the world to the rest of us who want to actually enjoy being out and about... let's reclaim public space for adults, people!
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Tue, October 10, 2006 - 3:14 AMit's sad how dead this forum is. it just shows how rare we are, which really sucks. i hate the whole "you're selfish for not breeding" line. it is so incredibly stupid and backwards. in fact, i'm having a discussion right now on another forum about it.
forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php (i'm AKR)
i've actually been banned from a forum because people were so pissed at my anti-breeding stance. i hate how backward and fucked up people are. it'd be one thing to just straight out say, "yeah, i'm selfish and i don't give a shit.' but to call US selfish? die slowly, scum! -
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Wed, October 18, 2006 - 5:12 PMAWESOME!
good to see things r kickin' up around here :)
i noted from some reputable looking source that it's a sad 6% of us who aren't breeding at this point, which i say entitles us to full force downloading of the glossy-eyed, breeder ridiculousness we're a-parent-ly surrounded by.
the most dynamic posts i've seen on tribe are on childfree and i gut myself laughing there all the time. the fun is purposeful and right on. i also happen to relay it into a sense of responsibility in being a role model for impressionable youth - letting them know there is a way out of unoriginal, destructo repetetive behaviour patterns ad nauseum...and that they don't have to sell their souls and look like total crap by 40...never mind be freed to be a more constructive presence in the world.
on another forum someone posted an un-topical solicitation for breeding props ("i just found out i'm going to be a dad for the 4th time, and gosh we're sure hopin' it's a boy after 3 girls") to which my partner responded with a link to VHEMT and expansive reminder of other possibilities. the group ignorance was then spewed by a swamping campaign of congrats to the original poster bcz this one, this one folks...rocks the ego to its very foundations! and apparently (still) the majority of us cannot handle it so get more stupid.
anyway, way to 'represent' and stand your ground AKR.
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Thu, October 19, 2006 - 1:48 AMthanks. it's tough out there.
"gosh we're sure hopin' it's a boy after 3 girls." lol, i always laugh when i hear shit like that. not so much because it's funny, but because it's so rediculous that someone obviously doesn't want the alternative (i heard, "we hope it's not twins!" the other day) , and yet, they take that chance (or the pregnancy was a fucking accident in the first place, and they hope for the better of two evils).
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Thu, October 19, 2006 - 9:03 PMReproduction is so ingrained in everybody's head. Continuation of the species. 300 million people in the US alone. Just say no I will not be driven by primal instincts. Most people are in their prime when they have children and they waste the best part of their life raising kids. 2.5 kids, house, SUV, dog, soccer on the weekends, bills, the perfect indebt family. Is it that important to procreate? I'd rather travel and I'm married to someone who feels the same.
God you know what really bugs me, is when people who have kids talk about their kids incessantly. There are a hundred other subjects I could think about talking about besides the color of the poo your kid took or how fast you think 'it' is maturing. Unless 'it' is driving a car at 9 months or playing a sonata on the piano I don't care.
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Re: (seeming) prevailing insanity
Mon, October 23, 2006 - 11:26 AMit's called cop.ulating out!
>the other night i'm at an art show looking at a photo series on a central american orphanage where 3 women are taking care of a ton of kids, and all they can afford to feed all of these orphans is one little bowl of rice a day...simultaneously - read SIMULTANEOUSLY - in the exact same room, the "compassionate" photographer who obviously went in depth to shed light on this pititful story is enthusiastically congratulating a buddy on his next incoming child.
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Mon, October 23, 2006 - 11:31 AMha.ha.ha.
someone's programming must be a bit mixed up! after posting noticed a banner ad on this tribe/page for "Free Live Birth Webcast". the subheaing read "twin baby jogger and twice baby call..."
some are apparently more easily motivated than i thought.
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Thu, November 16, 2006 - 11:26 AM<quote>wow, we're so misanthropic that we don't even talk to each other.</quote>
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Tue, November 28, 2006 - 10:24 PMYeah, the vhmt site is GREAT! "For example, in terms of energy consumption, when a North American couple stops at two it's about the same as an average East Indian couple stopping at 60, or an Ethiopian couple stopping at more than 600." I read that a few weeks ago and I think about that a LOT.
I saw a bumper sticker recently that echoed my thoughts. It said, Plants and animals die to make room for your fat ass.
I don't always have a misanthropic outlook, I certainly try to appreciate the people I know and like. But it's a fact, plants and animals die all the time for us. What do we do for them?
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Fri, May 4, 2007 - 9:02 AMHi! I'm the one who's just joined the group...
Even if I don't feel any maternal instinct, and I think that all that stuff that pregnancy involves is a little disgusting....well, I still believe that giving birth to children is a wonderful thing.
And it's wonderful because it's natural. And it's what everyone who had a child could say.
The problem is that no-one accept other important natural facts, for example disease and death. Even when they are (or they pretend to be) religious, they cannot accept that dying is not less natural that being born!
The problem is that once women produced children until they died...but of that 6-7 or more children, less than a half reached the reproductive age. And those who survived didn't consumed energy, water, food as we do (and I'm not talking about prehistory!)...
today we are too much, we eat too much and we live too longer, and I don't think that spreading out of vaccines is such a good event, because in poor countries women cannot even decided wheter having children or not, and if all those children who they give birth to survived, the word "overpopulation" would be just an euphemism.
Since dying is horrible, both for who dies and for who stays, the best for everyone is avoid procreating! the birth control pill is a magic invention...
And stating such things is even more difficoult for a woman, because of the traditional preconceptions about our role (Most of pepole think that we are just a sort of factory, and when we don't make children, and we cannot cook, and maybe we are not so interested in ironing...well...what we're useful to, then?)
When other beople say that I'm selfish because I don't want children, I'm really bewildered.
Is selfishness to give up our instinct of preservation? is it selfishness to decide to grow old and die without the confort of a family?
Do they really believe that is still a moral duty to have children? do they really think that human race is going to die out, therefore children are absolutely necessary to our society? Don't they see how many we are, crawling on the earth and consuming this planet?
I definitely say that their blindness is selfishness.
